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Slugs : Gardeners' Enemy #1

Friday, April 04, 2008 by Jeremy Dore - Categories: organic gardening
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Slug control is essential if seedlings and vegetables are to surviveIf there’s one garden pest that gardeners hate more than any other it’s slugs.  After weeks of carefully raising small plants from seed, checking their moisture levels and carefully hardening them off outside, slugs can wreck it all.  You take your prize seedlings, spend a hard day’s work planting them out and wake up the next morning to find them gone: often just the little stumps of stems and a slimy trail pointing the finger at the culprit.  So what can be done?

In years gone by there was one standard answer: slug pellets.  Spread a few around your crops and you wouldn’t have to worry about losing your plants.  But slug pellets are poisons that cause considerable distress for pets, wildlife, birds and beetles.  They usually contain metaldehyde (a pesticide) or methiocarb (an insecticide), neither of which are in keeping with organic principles.

So what solutions are open to the organic gardener?  There are five main methods:

  • Use Barriers: a ‘moat’ of gritty substances around your crops, copper rings (which produce a slight electric shock to the slugs) or plastic barriers (commercial or made from yoghurt pots) are all options.  I’ve tried all of them but with mixed success – the slugs I get in my greenhouse seem to get past most of them!
  • Drown Them:  Slugs love beer, milk and most sugary/yeasty liquids and are attracted by the smell.  So, saucers of beer sunk into the ground will attract them in and drown them – a relatively nice way to go perhaps?  The resulting ‘drowned slug soup’ does need to be disposed of regularly though!
  • Picking Them Off By Hand: Slugs come out at night, so a regular torch-lit trip to the vegetable plot at dusk can often reveal them ready for picking up and disposing of – or placing in a sealed container until the morning when they can be killed or fed to birds/chickens.
  • Birds and Frogs: Birds may cause problems when it comes to ripe fruit and can scratch up young seedlings while searching for worms but they are great at finding slugs and snails.  Frogs, too, can roam right through a garden reducing slug numbers if given a good pond environment to live in.  The problems are areas where they can’t easily get to: a closed greenhouse, or brick and stony areas where the slugs can hide.
  • Sacrificial seedlings and bigger plants: Slugs always go for tender seedlings in preference to established plants, so one option is to raise plants to a good healthy size in a slug-free area (such as a conservatory) before planting them out in their final positions.  This can be coupled with providing some young foliage or seedlings for the slugs to eat in preference.  The trouble is that this becomes a lot of work when you are talking about any reasonably sized vegetable plot.
  • Biological control: An application of microscopic parasitic worms, called nematodes, is mixed with water and applied to the soil.  The nematodes burrow into the slug and then breed inside it, stopping the slug from feeding as it swells up and eventually dies.  It works well, even in wet weather but is not effective against snails.  Personally, I think the long drawn-out death that the slug suffers (7-10 days) is not for me but it is widely used in organic agriculture.

I have tried all these methods apart from nematodes with varying success.  Sometimes I gain the upper hand and through meticulously waging battle on the slugs I manage to raise early productive plants.  Sometimes the slugs get through and, as happened last month, reduce a row of early peas to nothing in one night. 

This year I am trying to win the battle by stealth: by concealing small plants and letting nature’s own predators do most of the clearing up for me.  So nothing is going to be planted in the greenhouse bed until birds have had a good root through – everything is being raised high up or in large terracotta pots beside my house until I absolutely have to plant out.  Then I’m going to go for a blended combination of techniques:

  • Encouraging birds and frogs in the garden and opening up my greenhouse to them
  • Waiting until plants are relatively big (a good 10cm/4 inches or more) before planting them out, then using yoghurt pots to protect them in particularly vulnerable areas and leaving some sacrificial leaves or seedlings for the slugs to eat in preference to my plants
  • Copper tape around the terracotta pots to stop slugs climbing them
  •  Drowning them in beer – the excellent ‘Slug-X’ trap works well in my greenhouse and can be set up a few days before planting out
  • Using old slate, empty coconut shells and grapefruit skins to provide little moist havens that the slugs hide in at the end of the night.  In the morning I can just pick them up and dispose of the slugs elsewhere.
  • Some late-night slug hunts by torchlight

I’d love to hear your ideas on what works well, so do add them below as a comment...



Comments

When living in Wales, where our slugs were the size of fat mice, beer traps were the preferred option, triple strengh lager, half to the slugs, half to us, followed by a somewhat circuitous night search.
Comment by: zooms on Tuesday, April 08, 2008

The 'half to the slugs, half to us' idea sounds very appropriate - I've always found the night search option to be a bit of a drag but that's a much more positive way to look at it!
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Wednesday, April 09, 2008

I use the following method, based on the fact that slugs don't eat these aromatic herbs: I sprinkle lavender and rosemary sprigs around the beds and I believe the aroma deters slugs. The sprigs last a long time before needing replacement and they cost nothing. Good luck
Comment by: Alan Parkin-Coates on Saturday, April 19, 2008

Lavendar and rosemary sounds like an great idea I must try myself - I have an over-abundance of these growing as bushes so it would be a very easy way to repel the slugs - thanks.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Sunday, April 20, 2008

I've used these for the last couple of years: http://tinyurl.com/43cqsn - they're approved by Garden Organic, but I must confess I'm a bit nervous that I shouldn't be using them. Anyone got an opinion?
Comment by: Andy Parsons on Monday, April 21, 2008

I pick the slugs in my garden and put them in a hole in the compost bin. Now,I understand that slugs eat earthworms. What eats slugs in the compost? earwigs? centipeds? other slugs? I have noticed that the number of large tiger slugs is increasing in my garden. Is this because they are getting fat on earthworms and/or other slugs? in the compost? Is it better to throw them into the road and let them get squashed by traffic?
Comment by: Nina Pattison on Monday, July 28, 2008

Nina, I have a few big slugs and hundreds of earthworms in my compost bin and it doesn't seem to reduce the number of worms (in fact I have such an exceess of red earthworms I have been known to give them away to family starting compost heaps). My understanding is that slugs love rotting material and actually help the composting process, eventually dieing of old age. They rarely leave the compost bin as there's everything they love there(although I don't plant anything edible near the bin to tempt them). But I don't usually add them to the bin - I suppose that might tip the balance against the earthworms ... not sure.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Monday, July 28, 2008

I like knowing that they eventually die of old age...and why should they ever leave this paraadise into which they are cast....I will keep on composting them - it's certainly better than salting them - and let the worms work it out with them.....it's really those giants that worry me...they're so big and they travel so far to eat my garden bed. Are automobiles really their only predator? Thanks, Jeremy, for your response. ps one of the google sites does show one eating an earthworm. Perhaps it was already dead!
Comment by: Nina Pattison on Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Nina, The best predators for slugs are toads and frogs, so building a garden pond is a great idea. Here in the UK hedgehogs are also very good at eating them, though they are less easy to attract to a garden since they roam around a lot. Birds sometimes eat slugs but in my experience they often prefer worms!
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Seaweed meal is also effective as the salt deters the slug. In polytunnels use it around the edges. The meal stays on the top of the soil.The seaweed dust is washed into the soil it is good as a soil improver and breaks up heavy soils.
Comment by: Michael Casey on Wednesday, September 10, 2008

We all know about slug-pubs but they use up quite a lot of beer. Following is my own invention/improvement on the usual slug-pub. Take two yoghurt pots. Prick med. sized holes in the bottom of one - the 'sieve pot'. Place the sieve pot inside the other. Fill with beer and bury as usual. Now make a roof! Take one margarine tub upside down and cut two little doorways in it large enough for the slugs to crawl through. Place over the slug-pub and weight with a stone. About twice a week inspect your pots, lift out the sieve pot, leaving the beer behind - throw out the dead slugs and replace. You will only have to top up the beer now and again and it doesn't get diluted by rain. Works wonders! The first night, in one pot, I caught 60 of the small slugs that do a lot of damage.
Comment by: Sonia Gwilliam on Saturday, September 20, 2008

Sonia - what a great solution to this problem! I shall try this next year.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Sunday, September 21, 2008

P.S. The slug pot houses with basement swimming pools can look a little unsightly. Use your imagination to disguise them, either by painting the margarine tub green or, as I do, make sure they are covered with the foliage of other plants. They do work a treat, I promise you. And at least these little creatures should die happy!
Comment by: Sonia Gwilliam on Sunday, September 21, 2008

when putting yeasty mixture or beer out for the slugs use a mayonnaise jar or any other kind that has a smaller neck than belly, Put your liquid in it and place it on its side so the slugs can get in and the beer cant get out nor can the rain dilute it! my slugs have all gone away now. where do they go?
Comment by: nina on Monday, September 22, 2008

I have heard that if you place fresh cabbage leaves on the ground near your rows of veg, the slugs will hide under them at night, and then in the morning you can dispose of the leaves.
Comment by: carolyn on Thursday, February 19, 2009

Carolyn, Yes, I use a similar method with coconut shells and grapefruit skins to collect them. They love these damp moist places like the under-sides of cabbage leaves.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Thursday, February 19, 2009

I often ask my local pub for the beer left in the drip trays at the end of the night- i dont like wasting good beer for slugs!
Comment by: caroline scott on Friday, February 27, 2009

I used to live in Mississippi where the slugs are huge and many. I used to make up a spray bottle and fill it with half water and half vinegar. Then at night I would spray them with my mixture and they die. It works better than salt! They used to come up on my porch but I did not try it in the garden so don't know how the vinegar would affect the plants...
Comment by: Connie on Wednesday, March 04, 2009

I've made new raised beds. How long will it take the slugs to find them? No plants yet. Too early here in Scotland. Frost still in early morning and clear nights.
Comment by: eilean on Monday, April 20, 2009

Eileen, not as long as you might think! I would put out some sort of slug trap as soon a few days before seedlings are going into the ground. That being said, I get very few slugs in my front garden which is exposed with few places for them to hide and lots of birds to eat them, so you may be lucky. However, I still have at least one slug trap there on the salad bed and found a snail in it this morning.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Monday, April 20, 2009

I have found that slugs and snails hate salt! When I put my seedlings out, I put a ring of salt or sand and salt round the veggies, and hey presto most survive!
Comment by: Pauline Kentell on Thursday, May 28, 2009

Pauline, I can understand this working because slugs hate surfaces that dry out their mucus and salt would do this. However, salt is not good for your plants, so unless you are putting the salt onto a hard surface surrounding your vegetable bed then you could run into problems later on.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Thursday, May 28, 2009

My raised beds seem relatively slug free. I decided to keep all my egg shells and crush them fine and mix with sharp sand. So far they have not eaten any of my lettuce seedlings. I have picked off about two a night and they are only very tiny. Round the raised beds I did the lavender round the outside - planted a few plants.
Comment by: Eilean on Thursday, May 28, 2009

I've been using used coffee grounds with success - sprinkled around individual plants and along the edges of the garden beds. The coffee grounds also add nutrients to the soil.
Comment by: Erma on Sunday, June 14, 2009

I inspected my veg patch this morning and found to my horror all af my lovely cabbage have been a midnight feast for the slugs, also my lovely lettuce that was doing so well nibbled on. THIS IS WAR. I have got all the milk cartons and large coke bottles that I can find, took the bottom of of them and took the tops of the bottles for air. I put vaseline around the middle to stop the slugs crawling up the bottles. I put the bottles over my lovely cabbage and lettuce and put soil around them to see if this will stop the dreaded slugs. I remmber seeing this on some show on T.V years ago and I thought that I would give it a try . I will keep you informed of how well it work's. Fingers crossed.
Comment by: Grace Shovlin on Monday, June 22, 2009

i have a beautiful blue spruce that i planted this year. it's about 3 feet high and tonight i saw slugs all around it. Can they hurt my tree? i hate to use pesticides because of the many birds around and my two cats. If need be i will use beer. your comment would greatly be appreciated.
Comment by: Rosita Collin on Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Rosita, Slugs are rarely a problem with trees - only sometimes going for young leaves on small potted varieties. So I would simply keep an eye on it and only do something if you notice damage. One good method for trees is to use a 1 inch copper ring around the trunk of the tree which slugs don't like to cross. It must be close-fitting and you can buy adhesive copper tape that may make this easy, although it should probably be replaced in a different position each year to allow the tree trunk to grow. Beer traps are the other good alternative, or doing a check each night with a torch and removing them. Good luck!
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Tuesday, August 25, 2009

No probs with snails I put pictures of frogs all around my raised vegie patches and hey presto no more snails. Works on all snails but the blind ones. Daa if you beleave this you have more than a snail problem
Comment by: Andy McCracken on Thursday, October 01, 2009

I found the salt worked well, and of course, as rightly pointed out, did not put it too close to the young plants. When I was watering our newly acquired allotment, I was delighted to see a frog amongs the cabbage plants! We have had problems with holes in the leaves of the cabbages, and thought it was slugs and snails, but no! We put up bird scarers to keep the pigeons off, (I use old drink cans with a small stone in strung from string on a can, it rattles in the wind, and also old crisp packets and old cd's strung up also work really well!) However, we discovered that caterpillars were the problem! We netted the greens, and then discovered that as the plants grew, the butterflies were perching on the nets which were just touching the leaves and laying their eggs through the net!!! What a lot to learn! But what fun!
Comment by: Mrs Pauline Kentell on Friday, October 02, 2009

Can anyone help? I was very kindly given a very strong Invicta gooseberry plant earlier in the summer. It stayed in it's pot outside my back door very happily until one morning, (the day I was going to plant it in the allotment in fact!) I notice that nearly all the leaves had been stripped off! Having watched the Victorian farm program on the bbeeb last night, I saw that the lady had trouble with something she called sawfly on her gooseberries. Could this be what my gooseberry has and is there any remedy and will it recover?
Comment by: Mrs Pauline Kentell on Friday, October 02, 2009

Pauline, Yes, sawfly caterpillars are a prime culprit for the stripping of all the leaves on gooseberries. The usual advice is to keep a close eye out for the first sign of holes on the leaves, using your hands to remove the caterpillars as soon as they are spotted. I can't say if the bush will survive given that it was only recently planted but there is a good chance that it will be OK.
Comment by: Jeremy Dore on Monday, October 05, 2009

I seem to be hosting a herd of slugs....big, long (4 - 6 inches) black and brown, really quite handsome if they weren't slugs. They get put in the compost bin as soon as I see them. I have a mayonaise jar on its side containing beer. ( Saranac black and tan) much too good for them but they dont like it anyway. I have to pick them up with a trowel and put them in the jar where, I assume, they drown happy. Then I flush them down the toilet. I hope I am not fostering a whole fleet of giant slugs in the Hudson River by doing that! The earthworms keep proliferating. The slugs are big enough to have personalities!!!!!!! I sincerely hope they dont!
Comment by: Nina Pattison on Monday, October 05, 2009

COFFEE GROUNDS.. Use coffee grounds in your compost, mulch and sprinkled on your garden. Every where. It smells great and really works. Seems that the slugs and snails like it and it speeds up their heart rate so much they have a coronary. I have used this for some time and with excellent results. It is supposed to also work for nematodes so I use it in with my carrot plantings. Best of all. It is free. Most cafes are very happy to give it to you. And a good excuse for a nice relaxing visit and a latte.
Comment by: Rosalie on Wednesday, November 18, 2009

I found a great way to stop slugs and snails if you have a raised bed (hopefully with wooden sides. I paint the wood all around with grease about three inches wide then throw sharp sand on, the sand clings to the grease and hey presto no slugs and snails They don,t like either (sand or grease).
Comment by: Andy McC on Wednesday, November 18, 2009

those very large black and brown slugs *sometimes 6"* stretched out - seem to be tee totalers. They dont drink the beer I put out - or in the compost for them-/ I have to force them into the jar. Now, however, it is November and the slugs are gone - somewhere - dead? I dont know. They are all, at least the ones I could find, in the compost bin. We'll see next spring what happens. If they are down under growing....well, I'm going to get a large spear or a gun and shoot them.
Comment by: Nina Pattison on Wednesday, November 18, 2009

I am in Australia. Here we look after the really huge slugs. We call them leopard slugs. They are carnivorous and eat the smaller herbivores. That may be why the beer is not working. Check it out. You may be killing one of the good guys. My mother in law had a pet one that visited each evening to finish off all of the cat food. LOL
Comment by: Rosalie on Wednesday, November 18, 2009

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